i, too, spent my entire first day at the hospital sleeping
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Jan 28, 2016

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I'd like to take this moment to disclaim that I do not condone psych hospitals whatsoever. Maybe I should write something more detailed about this some time.


Jan 28, 2016

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Jan 29, 2016

Oly-RRR

I don't think any of it looks like you're condoning that... So I don't think any explanation is necessary and and it's a tricky subject anyway, different things working for different people so unless a story goes out of its way to sound like "THIS IS HOW IT IS FOR EVERYONE!!1" I usually try to look at everything as "this is just one story story of one person" rather than any sort of rule. Just wanted to say that since it's one of the subjects I have a lot of thoughts and feelings about.

Though with my track record I'd probably have more issues if you put it the other way round and were actively pushing the idea of how wooonderful psych hospitals are. I see that a lot lately (especially on tumblr when I peek at it), it's like people can't get the idea that everything is relative and have to shout about how something is either 100% evil or 100% brilliant. 9_9 You don't do that, that's good enough for me.


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Jan 30, 2016

spiremint

@Oly-RRR: Yeah, you worded it well. It's definitely a very large and complex and difficult subject.

Recoil as a whole is about the errors and abusive parts of a system clashing with the good parts, and the effects on all the people caught within it. Even though Kalo is our "protagonist" we will look at what other people are going through, too.


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Jan 30, 2016

Oly-RRR

@spiremint: This just makes me look forward to future pages even more. :) I always worry a bit when getting into a new comic because it's hard to tell how each creator looks at all this from the start (something I hear from people a lot - "you write about disability, I thought you'd be all preachy" haha).


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Apr 28, 2017

SoulRaider116

@Oly-RRR: As someone with a mental health diagnosis, I think your reply here is spot on.

Now, in the 18 years since I was diagnosed I've only been hospitalized once. And it was in a "normal" hospital. Still, with 18 years under my belt, and interactions with others who have been in and out of psych hospitals, I can say the medical and insurance systems tend to be set up against us.

If you are just worried about your mindset suddenly getting off kilter in a short time (say over a weekend) a hospital tends to refuse admittance. You have to be an immediate threat to yourself or others. So active suicidal or homicidal indentations are needed.

My local hospital has begun cutting the psych outpatient programs. That makes outside treatments harder to find, and insurance won't pay for more than a week in the standard hospital before they want you shipped off to a state hospital or released. That's with my plan on Medicaid through my state.

And the same insurances don't want to pay for meds unless you've tried ever knock off and generic. I had to stop taking Abilify when my insurance stopped covering it after Obama care kicked in and Medicaid split it's options between different companies. I'm not 100% sure if it was connected, but the timing matches up.

I've also spent a couple years in group homes, trying to bridge between being dependent on my folks and becoming independent. One was ok, though not as independent as I was led to think. Then after I was hospitalized for a week, they shipped me to another.

The same counseling center owned it. Most of the center's services are awesome. That house was hell. I have a diagnosis of major depression...it impacts my ability to cope and thus function. It does not impact my ability to tell when someone tells me one thing, then says the opposite to someone else. It does not affect my ability to read a label that tells me to take a medication with a pill, or to recognize when my body is doing something weird.

I lived in that second home for six months, it was downright the worst excuse for mental healthcare ever. The woman in charge of the house repeatedly tried to play mind games with me by saying one thing, then changing her statement and calling me a liar. Including about accusing me of lying. She refused to listen when the label on my pills said to take them with a meal, because "med time" was and hour and a half to two hours after the meal. She said the nurse at the center okayed the timing she laid out, so I dropped it, until I got so sick for so long I thought I should ask someone.

So I questioned a different nurse, who was very upset to learn the instructions on the label weren't being followed, since I shouldn't be taking it without at least 400 calories. She assured me she would talk to the house, then told me that same day she had done so. The house refused to give me my pill that night with the meal. They said the woman in charge of the house had spoken on the phone with the nurse, and been told I was fine taking it with crackers. I refused to take it at all then, and was marked non-compliant.

The next day, I told the nurse what had happened, and sat in her office as she called the office and spoke with the workers on the phone so I could hear at least her end of things. After that, they had to listen.

By the end of six months, I was more suicidal than ever. If it weren't for my boyfriend calling me every night...I don't know what I might have done.

Now, that house works well for some people. And I don't know why. Me, I'm with my parents again, and the closest I've ever been to resolving my issues. Even my doctors notice I'm much healthier now. Within weeks I improved drastically.

Anyway, I went on a rant/ramble. I think the point was that yeah, the mental health system can get pretty effed up. And some people respond differently certain treatments/situations than others. Many would rather risk serious relapse than willing to to the hospital. I was terrified the first time I went in (just last year). But now, it's not that scary. At least not the local psych ward. And I'd rather go in and get help than spiral into despair. I will never trust the housing assistance done through my counseling center again. Which is a shame. Because almost everyone else there is amazing.

And I'm rambling again...so I'm just hitting submit before this becomes a therapy session.

Mental Health Awareness, everyone get some!

Superpowers as a Mental Health Metaphor = Awesome.

<3


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Apr 28, 2017

Oly-RRR

@SoulRaider116: Aw man, I'm sorry you had to go through all that. I don't want to talk about my mental issues in detail on a public forum but let me just say it's a shame the system treats stuff like Abilify like it's magical fairy dust because so far it's been the only antipsychotic I could still function on. I'm not even in the US, is there anyone anywhere not having to pay for it out of pocket? 8I

And yeah, people are people, unfortunately not getting along with one specific person in charge can ruin group treatment (happened to me too).

Anyway, didn't expect to get such a long message but I guess it's a sign of good writing, that the story affected us both so much. And good to hear you're doing better, keep that up! :)


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Apr 28, 2017

SoulRaider116

@Oly-RRR:

Yeaaah...sorry bout the length there. I get on certain topics and start to just go off stream of consciousness. Mental health can be one of those. I didn't realize I had quite that much written.


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Apr 28, 2017

Oly-RRR

@SoulRaider116: No worries, these things get to me too, it's a touchy subject. I'm more chill these days but it didn't take much to get me on my soapbox a year or two ago. :)


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Aug 11, 2018

IronDog

No schooling facilities. Interesting. So it's claiming to be a rehabilitation facility but really seems more of an experimentation prison. I'm curious to see how this progresses.


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